KDPUP = KDE 3.5.10 + dpup 484 beta 4

[oui]

Gnz11[/b], thanks for the information. KDE is my wife priority and I have to obey her wishes

I did not read all the discussion but only the last page of message. I use Puppy and KDE a lot of time because I also consider KDE as one of my priorities (my wife use Puppy without KDE because she use Puppy since 2004 without interruption now! and it was not possible to install some parts of KDE in Puppy 1.0 ).

but I use a very long time now Puppy with the KDE 4, not with the KDE 3.5 any more as named in the subject of this discussion.

our problem at this time in Puppy is that Puppy does preserve old methods a very long time and don't follow the actual development in Linux, and as Linux himself don't reach to be really equivalent with Windows, the distance between Windows and Puppy don't become shorter.

it would be a good impulse to concentrate all the energy to acquire a large software base (being easily to find in Slackware as Slackware was all the time consequent KDE fan!) to allow the limitless installation of high performance professional software.

what wish you wife to find in particular in the KDE more than the KDE environment? is she using such stuff like KDE office etc.?

[saintless]

what wish you wife to find in particular in the KDE more than the KDE environment? is she using such stuff like KDE office etc.?

She uses KXStitch 8.3 - the only real linux alternative of PMaker for windows. At first I was able to install it only on Slackware 13 and Ubuntu. I had some troubles to make it work with KDPup. The older version KXStitch 7 was easier to install but it has less options. Now we have 8.3 working.
We use Softmaker Office 2008 mostly.
Konqueror and K3b are also our favorites.
Right mouse button click copy and paste option was one of our needs when we've decided to replace windows with linux.

[Eyes-Only]

Saintless? The "right-copy paste" of which you speak can be easily done with the file manager XFE found in the "Additional Software" section of this forum under "File Managers". Not only that but XFE can be made either a two-pane/three-pane file manager, or can even be made to resemble Windows Explorer with the "directory tree" down the left-hand side of the manager and one pane for files on the right-hand side.

Most of the .pets found on the forum here for XFE likewise contain the extra apps which go with XFE, like a document reader/editor as well as an image viewer, screenshot programme, and more. It may be worth looking into perhaps? I've consistently used it ever since MU introduced me to it nearly 6 years ago now and is the very first thing I install on ANY new linux installation. I couldn't survive without it!

I hope this has helped in some small way?

Cheers/Amicalement,

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"

[saintless]

Saintless? The "right-copy paste" of which you speak can be easily done with the file manager XFE found in the "Additional Software" section of this forum under "File Managers".

Thanks, Eyes-Only, I've found the XFE pet package a few months ago and it is my favorite too. I use it with JWM from time to time, when I feel KDE is to heavy for my 512 Mb of RAM.
Thunar is another option for copy-paste with right click. There is Thunar pet package also but I agree XFE is the best.

I found this thread where SFR makes copy-paste right click possible for Rox as well:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77003

[Eyes-Only]

Hey! Thank you for that Saintless! That's one feature I always missed in ROX... although I learnt very quickly that a simple drag from one window to the other opened window did nearly the same thing. But this is really neat and something I've searched around for a long time.

Thank you very much again!

Cheers/Amicalement,

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"

[mini-jaguar]

Thanks for answering these questions saintless, been busy lately so don't have much time to check, glad to see people still use kdpup though
mini-jaguar, have you gone through settings/control panel in kde or I think it should be option for kicker (taskbar) to add battery applet too.

The only way I can think of is with the right button on the task, but no battery/power applet is available.

I did try a .deb file from those earlier links, but it it didn't install properly, in fact the package manager didn't even acknowledge it existence.

[rob_0126]

i like your version of puppy. i only have an issue with shutdown options. the only option is to end session. rebbot and shutdown is missing. is that a hardware specific bug?

athlon 64 3200+ k8n neo mobo 1 gig ram.

thanks

Robert

[saintless]

i only have an issue with shutdown options. the only option is to end session. rebbot and shutdown is missing.

I can suggest a quick fix for this. Drag and drop /usr/bin/shutdown on the desktop and create a symlink.
Or from the start menu use --> Settings --> Menu editor to add menu icon pointing to /usr/bin/shutdown

[rob_0126]

will give it a shot when i get back home.

is their a way to correct the menu?

thanks

[saintless]

is their a way to correct the menu?

In Menu editor go to File -> New item and add New item button. Rename it to Shutdown, add icon from Actions and give the path to the executable file. See the attached picture.
I don't know how to move the Shutdown button down where the Logout button is but I guess it is not very important.

Edit: Then you can also put this shutdown button in the taskbar. Right click on the taskbar and choose Add Application to panel. You will see Shutdown as an option to add.

[rob_0126]

thanks. there must be a way to put a link down near session logout. is the person who created this pup still workin on it? i wonder if he could take lupu 5.2.8 and make it kde 3.5?

[rob_0126]

thanks. there must be a way to put a link down near session logout. is the person who created this pup still workin on it? i wonder if he could take lupu 5.2.8 and make it kde 3.5?

[mini-jaguar]

There is a 5.2.8 with KDE already:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 21bf77b5f9
I think this is the exact page for it:
http://www.puppylinuxjosejp2424.com/201 ... ramas.html

and also here is something that adds KDE 3.5 to 5.2.8:
http://www.puppylinuxjosejp2424.com/201 ... puppy.html

[rob_0126]

how much mrmory does both take up? also is it possible to make kde default?

[saintless]

how much mrmory does both take up? also is it possible to make kde default?

KDE is the default desktop.
Here is a memory usage report with open Firefox (five open tabs in it):

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# /mnt/sda5/ps_mem.py
 Private  +  Shared  =  RAM used        Program

 64.0 KiB +  80.0 KiB = 144.0 KiB       start_kdeinit
 76.0 KiB + 292.0 KiB = 368.0 KiB       kwrapper
 72.0 KiB + 380.0 KiB = 452.0 KiB       syslogd
 80.0 KiB + 376.0 KiB = 456.0 KiB       klogd
 72.0 KiB + 440.0 KiB = 512.0 KiB       init
108.0 KiB + 408.0 KiB = 516.0 KiB       acpid
248.0 KiB + 356.0 KiB = 604.0 KiB       pup_event_front
136.0 KiB + 492.0 KiB = 628.0 KiB       getty (2)
408.0 KiB + 256.0 KiB = 664.0 KiB       dbus-daemon
364.0 KiB + 348.0 KiB = 712.0 KiB       udevd
164.0 KiB + 620.0 KiB = 784.0 KiB       xinit
152.0 KiB + 844.0 KiB = 996.0 KiB       hald-runner
200.0 KiB + 960.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB       startkde
216.0 KiB + 960.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB       xwin
352.0 KiB +   1.5 MiB =   1.8 MiB       gconfd-2
768.0 KiB +   1.1 MiB =   1.8 MiB       bash
  1.3 MiB + 856.0 KiB =   2.2 MiB       cupsd
  1.0 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   2.3 MiB       hald
320.0 KiB +   2.1 MiB =   2.4 MiB       dcopserver
228.0 KiB +   2.8 MiB =   3.0 MiB       kdeinit
524.0 KiB +   5.4 MiB =   6.0 MiB       klauncher
  1.5 MiB +   4.6 MiB =   6.1 MiB       kio_file (5)
760.0 KiB +   6.4 MiB =   7.1 MiB       ksmserver
  1.0 MiB +   7.2 MiB =   8.2 MiB       klipper
  1.4 MiB +   7.7 MiB =   9.1 MiB       kxkb
  2.1 MiB +   7.9 MiB =   9.9 MiB       krandrtray
  2.1 MiB +   8.2 MiB =  10.3 MiB       kwin
  2.6 MiB +  10.3 MiB =  12.9 MiB       kdesktop
  4.0 MiB +   9.2 MiB =  13.2 MiB       kmix
  2.9 MiB +  10.3 MiB =  13.2 MiB       kded
 12.0 MiB +   1.5 MiB =  13.6 MiB       X
  4.1 MiB +  10.5 MiB =  14.6 MiB       kicker
  4.4 MiB +  10.3 MiB =  14.8 MiB       konsole
  6.2 MiB +  13.3 MiB =  19.4 MiB       konqueror
 14.1 MiB +   9.3 MiB =  23.3 MiB       plugin-containe
125.0 MiB +  11.5 MiB = 136.5 MiB       firefox-bin

 Private  +  Shared  =  RAM used        Program

[Bligh]

Been playing with this, haven't been able to install seamonkey or update firefox but I can use the rest of it. Particularly amorok and k3b.
Cheers

[saintless]

Been playing with this, haven't been able to install seamonkey or update firefox but I can use the rest of it. Particularly amorok and k3b.
Cheers

Hi, Bligh,
I use KDPup more than a year and if you need to update Firefox just let it do it automatic from the Preferences. See the attached picture with mine latest Firefox version.
Seamonkey is in Puppy5 repo in PPM but it can't be downloaded for some reason. May be it is temporary problem. Here is how you can get it work easy like portable application:
1. Download 3-seamonkey.squashfs from Sickgut's site here:
http://www.thepussycatforest.info/linux ... y.squashfs
Change the name of the file to 3-seamonkey.sfs and mount it with single click with Rox (in Konqueror choose open with rox). Open WWW folder, then open browser.zip archive and extract the content somewhere on your hard drive. Then go to the extracted folder and click on seamonkey shell script and you have working seamonkey.

[Bligh]

@saintless Thanks for the response, I may try that. I have only run Dpup live so far. I prefer the kde 3 distro's and keep one installed to have those apps available but most have the outdated browser issue. I do have one install of Mepis 8.5 that I installed the current Seamonkey on from Mozilla. I also have some kde 4 distro's installed on the primary partition with a Puppy save file on the data partition. Pclinux seams to be the least offensive of the kde 4 distro's. Having kde 3 available on Puppy allows me to try other non kde distro's. I have been using current Puppies for internet browsing.
Cheers

[quotaholic]

Hi everyone. Just joined to see if I can get this puplet to work on very very old hardware. Me and a few others started Webdt.org. The Webdts are industrial tablet computers commonly found in home automation. Amd geode CPU and graphics and a 800x600 screen. Every time I try kdpup it breaks my monitor with either a wrong driver or its a resolution that is too much for the Webdt. I have tried all prefix option including nox and I still get jacked monitor. Can anyone offer suggestion for starting with VESA or geode driver for graphics or forcing a 800x600?

Thank you in advance
Quotaholic

[Pelo]

2015 : KDPUP the return ! Computers were low RAM in 2010, 2015 i own 4GB.
KDpup est en cuisine, KDPUP is on testbench for recycling, renewed by the 3.0.25 kernel. What people will think about it ?
I don't care. It's the fun.
Firefox : i would like an intermediate version, 15 would be fine.
How-to : see the topic 'how to switch the kernels' from this forum.
Pupsaves are KDPUPSAVE, i renamed to racysave because in fact the distro is a Racy 5.3