Puppy Arcade 10

[Gnuxo]

All of my puppy arcade files are in the same directory, which I called Arcade, then I renamed it pup, thinking that maybe the name had to be exact.
However no matter what, when booting via Grub4dos, I keep getting an error on bootup, saying that pup_420.sfs wasn't located.

I don't know what to do.

I am trying to dual boot a macpup 528 and puppy arcade via grub4dos.
Since puppy arcade is based on puppy 420, maybe it's incompatible with the current versions of grub4dos???

[Keef]

A Grub4Dos menu.lst entry should look something like this:

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title Puppy Arcade 10
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /arcade/initrd.gz
  kernel /arcade/vmlinuz   psubdir=arcade pmedia=atahd 
  initrd /arcade/initrd.gz

I haven't got Arcade but am currently using Akita which has a pup_420.sfs and that boots ok.
Check your menu.lst for typos - I've messed up many a time.

[Gnuxo]

I just pasted your entry into menu.lst and it still can't find puppy_420.sfs

I'm getting really frustrated.

[Keef]

Just to be sure, I've downloaded the ISO to test it. Works ok for me.
In my example, the psubdir is 'arcade', but I noticed that yours was 'Arcade' - did you change either so they matched? (the folder name and the menu.lst entry).
Also, check that the sfs is actually called 'pup_420.sfs'.
Other than that, I've got nothing else, sorry. But I don't think you are the only one to have this problem.

[Gnuxo]

I changed the folder name and yes I made sure about the sfs, I just copied the .sfs and related files into the folder.

I don't know what's causing this. I've never had this problem before.

Edit: No I'm not the only one to get this problem. I just found this.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... &start=615

[zekebaby]

I changed the folder name and yes I made sure about the sfs, I just copied the .sfs and related files into the folder

Try putting the initrd, kernel and sfs in the root folder, not in a subdir. I don't believe all 4.x puppies supported subdir booting.

[Gnuxo]

How do I dual boot puppy arcade with Macpup then?

How do I set up Grub4dos to boot puppy arcade outside a subdir?

[zekebaby]

How do I dual boot puppy arcade with Macpup then?

How do I set up Grub4dos to boot puppy arcade outside a subdir?

Sorry, I don't have either distro, but assuming they both look like standard Puppies, all you have to do is simply rename your initrd and vmlinuz, and drop them all into your root directory along with the SFS files. Put something like this in your grub menu.lst:

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title Puppy Arcade
  kernel vmlinuz_arcade
  initrd initrd_arcade.gz

title MacPup
  kernel vmlinuz_macpup
  initrd initrd_macpup.gz

[Keef]

To boot from the root directory just remove the subdir reference from the menu entry:

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title Puppy Arcade 10 
   find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /initrd.gz 
   kernel /vmlinuz   pmedia=atahd 
   initrd /initrd.gz

If MacPup is booting from a directory ok, just leave it where it is.

Have you also tried pmedia=idehd ?

[Gnuxo]

Errr...what's the difference between Ide and Ata? I'm pretty sure I have an Ata.

Also do you think Puppy Arcade has issues with Grub4Dos? Do you think I should get the grub bootloader instead? Or does it not matter?

Another issue is that I don't really have a root folder unless you count the puppy distros themselves. All of my puppy folders are directly inside mnt/sda1

[Gnuxo]

I've now installed the grub bootloader.

How do I get rid of grub4dos and use grub instead?

I've never tried using grub to boot puppy, so I'm a little nervous.

It's obviously not grub2 because I can't access grub from grub4dos.

[Gnuxo]

I just discovered an interesting error.

Ok...I don't have a large OS installed. I just made an ext4 partition and moved Macpup onto it and linked to it with Grub.

Now when I boot up the Puppy Arcade cd, it won't mount my sda1.
It also detects my hdd partition as ext3, not ext4. And when I try the installer it says I have no free space on my partition even though I have 70 gigs free.
My Macpup save file is 3fs. which means puppy arcade is trying to mount my Macpup save file instead of the sda drive itself.

Also a few of the emulators won't even open when I click on them.

These are all issues I am having and maybe its's why Puppy Arcade is having issues booting frugally.

Maybe it's not playing well with my Macpup. Or maybe it's just defective.

Any ideas folks?

[sc0ttman]

I just discovered an interesting error.

Ok...I don't have a large OS installed. I just made an ext4 partition and moved Macpup onto it and linked to it with Grub.

Now when I boot up the Puppy Arcade cd, it won't mount my sda1.
It also detects my hdd partition as ext3, not ext4. And when I try the installer it says I have no free space on my partition even though I have 70 gigs free.
My Macpup save file is 3fs. which means puppy arcade is trying to mount my Macpup save file instead of the sda drive itself.

Also a few of the emulators won't even open when I click on them.

These are all issues I am having and maybe its's why Puppy Arcade is having issues booting frugally.

Maybe it's not playing well with my Macpup. Or maybe it's just defective.

Any ideas folks?

Puppy Arcade is based on puppy 420, and the 2.6.25.16 kernel it uses does not support ext4... That will be the root of your problems, if trying to boot puppy arcade off an ext4 partition... If you have frugal installs it should be easy enough to copy the files over to another drive or partition, then reformat as ext3... Or not bother, if you don't think puppy arcade is worth it.. It's up to you...

[Gnuxo]

Oh, I figured that out on my own.

I already have Puppy Arcade up and running frugally. I made a new ext3 partition.

Getting some drivers, will copy them over to sda3 from Macpup. Wifi in Puppy Arcade doesn't work but It's for gaming so it doesn't matter.

Thanks for making Puppy Arcade 10 and hopefully 11 will be soon to follow.

[Gnuxo]

A few interesting comments:

Under xvesa, snes9x won't even open. The screen flashes.

I had to switch to xorg which is much slower and install a .pet for my intel graphics chip.

The games run fine but I can't seem to figure out which settings to use because all of them seem to possess some graphical glitch.

[johncl]

Hi, I am in the process of building myself a Mame arcade cabinet and wanted to use an older Via Epia CN13000 (1.3 GHz C7 CPU, Via Unichrome Pro GPU, 1 GB memory). I tried Puppy Arcade 10 boot USB stick on my 3 year old work laptop and it booted up fine although the X3100 graphics chipset was not supported out of the box. The boot start shows me a fancy graphics based boot selector where I can choose to boot or install, etc.

But when I try to boot it on my Via Epia system it only brings up a textbased prompt for Grub4Dos with an option to press ESC to bring up a menu with 4 options, none which boots Puppy.

I am sorry but I am really Linux illiterate so that is really why I wanted to try out a prebuilt distribution for Mame fun. If it doesnt work on my Via does anyone have any experience in other linux distros that work fine and will allow me to run Mame at fullscreen for my arcade project? I'd rather use a faster Linux boot than WinXP if I could.

[sc0ttman]

A few interesting comments:

Under xvesa, snes9x won't even open. The screen flashes.

Maybe try the default Xvesa from pup4 repos: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -7.3-1.pet

Or if that is the one you're already using, see here (I cant remember which PA10 uses): http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62145

The games run fine but I can't seem to figure out which settings to use because all of them seem to possess some graphical glitch.

What kind of glitches? It might be that JWM is the culprit, especially if it's while trying to go fullscreen... I recommend testing IceWM, here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -1.3.2.pet

[sc0ttman]

But when I try to boot it on my Via Epia system it only brings up a textbased prompt for Grub4Dos with an option to press ESC to bring up a menu with 4 options, none which boots Puppy.

How are you trying to boot from this system? From live CD?
I've no idea why you're GRUB boot menus would differ if that is the case...

I am sorry but I am really Linux illiterate so that is really why I wanted to try out a prebuilt distribution for Mame fun. If it doesnt work on my Via does anyone have any experience in other linux distros that work fine and will allow me to run Mame at fullscreen for my arcade project? I'd rather use a faster Linux boot than WinXP if I could.

Maybe try another puppy, and add the MAME .pet...

You could try these (Search this forum using link in my signature):

- Puppy 431
- TurboPup Extreme
- Lucid Puppy

You can then download various MAME versions (none so recent) from my online repo thingy: http://ppm.scottjarvis.com/?dir=./emulation/MAME

But please note, I never tested MAME on any other puppies,,,

[MarkHill]

well i installed xboxdrv (duh ) and then it needed libboost-thread1.42.0 which is available from Debian's site

i ripped debs of these and i am not sure if it works with turbopup due to a different glibc? (correct me if im wrong)

and yea i agree i think puppy arcade is a great puplet all you really need to do is adapt it to newer versions (or not)

i made the xboxdrv+liboost thing into an sfs so i can upload if you want.

Is this sfs available? I am interested in using the Xbox controller.

[mavrothal]

Tried to compile the geode driver in Arcade 10 with devx_420 loaded but apparently xserver.h is not in devx.
Any idea where I could find it?
(other 4xx puppies maybe with the same xserver?)
Thx