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8-bit · #181 Post by **8-bit** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 06:59

Everything worked for me that the update was supposed to fix. So I am unsure about installing it.
My only problem seemed to be that the selection in the dropdown for programs in HELP seemed to not take me to the appropriate help file and local man pages installed by a pet failed to display when typing man name of program.
Other than that, all seems good.

I spoke to soon on the HELP program.
It seems that since it now uses Seamonkey for display, AND if you have no-script enabled, no-script will block javascript from working and the help for a program will not be displayed!

Also, Seamonkey 2.04 seems to work well for me.

tubby · #182 Post by **tubby** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 07:25

I have now done a full install on this old Toshiba and so far the only thing that i have had trouble with is SM2, two lockups while browsing and the only way out was a rude shut down. On reboot it gets stuck at the dos prompt but a reboot solves the problem.
I have now installed FF and so far no lockups, anyone else reported problem with SM2?.

#183 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 07:39

The interesting thing about Seamonkey is that when you compile it, usually its around 2-3mb smaller compared to the default mozilla release, but I downloaded Barry's Quirky 2.0.4 that he'll be using in the next release, and well its the same size as the one in 4.3.2, well I have extra plugins etc that make it 2mb larger extracted but if you remove the plugins its about the same size, I did remove and replace the default theme with the current one which was smaller, plus I tossed the modern theme, but so did Barry, I removed chatzilla which Barry did, but as a bonus you get the address book which I think he doesn't include, so I think I did a pretty good job on scaling a default version down to size

ttuuxxx

Lobster · #184 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 07:48

There was nothing wrong with sound production in 4.3.1 for me
. . . or in Lucid
- No idea what has been changed in this version

The new volume setter disappeared after running the pet
rerunning x server did not bring it back
rebooting brought it back but the sound wizard
had to be set manually again.

Hope you get other testers

#185 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 09:23

Lobster wrote:There was nothing wrong with sound production in 4.3.1 for me
. . . or in Lucid
- No idea what has been changed in this version

The new volume setter disappeared after running the pet
rerunning x server did not bring it back
rebooting brought it back but the sound wizard
had to be set manually again.

Hope you get other testers

Ya I think I might remake V3 without the 3 updates that could effect sound and net, but what a pain. lol
ttuuxxx

Lobster · #186 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 10:21

It is a shame

Many years ago in the last century
before we even had Windows or
computers that were 'widdly wees'
(My sisters term for hi tech gadgets)
the BBC Master could be upgraded to run
with a a 10MHz 80186 co-processor
which was only 80% compatible with
with other x86 and x88 - at the time

Some programmers developed on these machines
because iif it worked on the Master 512
it worked on anything . . .
- well not Amiga or Atari but any PC compatible

I may have the modern equivalent

#187 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 11:00

Lobster wrote:It is a shame

I may have the modern equivalent

But did V2 sound work fine?
ttuuxxx

#188 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 11:01

Lobster wrote:It is a shame

Many years ago in the last century
before we even had Windows or
computers that were 'widdly wees'
(My sisters term for hi tech gadgets)
the BCC Master could be upgraded to run
with a a 10MHz 80186 co-processor
which was only 80% compatible with
with other x86 and x88 - at the time

Some programmers developed on these machines
because iif it worked on the Master 512
it worked on anything . . .
- well not Amiga or Atari but any PC compatible

I may have the modern equivalent

Hi lobster could you test V3 with puppy pfix=ram please
ttuuxxx

Lobster · #189 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 11:57

V3 with puppy pfix=ram please

That is what I did

I never used V2

Barry is gonna reinstate positive comments on his blog - good news for you Ttuuxxx
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01481

tasmod · #190 Post by **tasmod** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 12:02

OK. I put v3 on my old Dell 7500 which has always had sound issues.

However before I could test the sound the frugal install behaved strangely.

I copied across the three op files, set up menu.lst and then re-started the lappy, opening routine OK, set my defaults, EN-GB etc and let boot complete.
Then I set it to reboot to setup a pupsave.

This ran OK and set up a 512mb pupsave.

Rebooted, no problem, then ran network on the wireless and saved all parameters. Checked, yes access to net.

Set for reboot so it would add to pupsave, here's the problem, it then started the close routine BUT offered me a pupsave window as it claimed I was running from live CD. ?

So I selected NO and it carried on the shutdown dialog but it stalled with " fatal --- sys not mounted "

It did this 3 times then closed.

I then rebooted and it loaded previous pupsave through to desktop OK but on setting for reboot same routine occurred again with 3 fatal messages.

I have used this iso on this PC ok so I'm going to try again on the lappy just to check it wasn't a corrupt copy across.

#191 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 13:08

Lobster wrote:
V3 with puppy pfix=ram please
That is what I did

I never used V2

Barry is gonna reinstate positive comments on his blog - good news for you Ttuuxxx
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01481

Yes it is good news

but you need to boot as
puppy pfix=ram
Nooo "please at the end of the line

"
ttuuxxx

James C · #192 Post by **James C** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 13:43

My full install has had no sound problems or any real problems at all.Been working so well that I haven't installed the update pet yet.

I've been trying to get SeaMonkey to crash but haven't been able to .

If I find a bit of time I'll try a frugal on the old P3 just to see what happens.......

#193 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 13:44

here's the latest wget, you'll also need the openssl below.
The current wget is 5yrs old.
ttuuxxx

Lobster · #194 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 14:01

I've been trying to get SeaMonkey to crash but haven't been able to

We are obviously slack testers
I too find Seamonkey 2 very stable

James C · #195 Post by **James C** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 14:20

After I did a frugal install of Quirky 018 on the old P3 test box I went ahead and did a quick frugal of 4.32 as well.
Everything is working out of the box.....sound, internet, etc. Haven't rebooted yet so I'll see if it retains everything.
Looks pretty solid here.

tasmod · #196 Post by **tasmod** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 17:10

Hmmmm. Most odd.

The Dell lappy just doesn't want to play.

I downloaded v3 in 431 on lappy and then set it up for boot.

So that's a new iso and a new load.

Same result, all OK until reboot from first pupsave. Then when shutting down on 2nd run it offers a new save window claiming I'm running from live CD. If I select NO it then goes on and errors 3 times with Modules - Fatal - /sys not mounted.

I just can't get anywhere with it on the Dell 750 laptop.

Will try one last time with new d/load again.

Ray MK · #197 Post by **Ray MK** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 17:26

Hi

Thats interesting - I got the same 3 fatal messages yesterday

meant to report but forgot till now.

Running on IBM A21m Thinkpad.

Very best regards - Ray

8-bit · #198 Post by **8-bit** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 18:09

I also tried installing the update. In my case, I had a populated pupsave file too.
When I booted up, I had to go through the initial setup again with all the first boot messages displayed and on reboot, it asked if I wanted to create a pupsave.
I said no.
The next boot came up with the Boot Manager displayed on the Desktop for SFS selection of additional SFS files.
I clicked OK on them without having it load any additional SFS files at the next boot.
The 2nd and 3rd boot took me to the desktop.

For those that wonder, after installing the update PET, the "run once" files were restored and that is why you had to go through initial setup again.

Also, still local man pages installed by programs are still not available with the man command from a terminal AND it seems "nroff", "groff" and it's support files have disappeared in 432. They were in 431.
So to view a man file for a newly installed program, I have to navigate to the program's man directory and view the man file as text.

Since 432 and 431 use the same kernel, I tried copying the above files over from 431 to 432 along with a fixed man script from 431.
But I did not realize at the time I needed support files for the binary file "groff".
I will have to do a "ldd groff" from a terminal in 431 and see what files it says it needs.

DaveS · #199 Post by **DaveS** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 19:28

Great work Ttuuxxx. This is SO my default Puppy now...............

tasmod · #200 Post by **tasmod** » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 20:16

OK now I know it's a bug.

D/Loaded v3 and checked it all out, sum correct so a good copy.

Burned a CD of the iso.

Ran it live and did an install as frugal. Rebooted and set up usual settings only.

Rebooted to set up a pupsave. Set it and restarted, booted OK through to desktop.

So as a test at this point only usual settings in pupsave, I rebooted again.
It shut down no problem, restarted OK and through to desktop.
So, I did this 3 more times and all was successful.

Then I ran the network setup and set my wireless parameters, all OK tested browser, all OK.

Rebooted, started OK through to desktop.

However on shutdown the error appeared again. 3 fatal messages as sys not mounted.

I tried a reboot again and all ok to desktop but on shutdown again the message fatal and a new save screen claiming I'm running from live CD.

It seems that using the network wizard causes a problem in the pupsave at exit.

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