Turbopup Xtreme v1.0 - The fastest dog on Earth

[Rait]

What kernel is beta1 using?
2.6.25.16?

[sinc]

@sinc
turbopup beta1 used kernel 2.6.25.16

I had that same question.

[inoxidabile]

Hi everybody!
I would like to try TurboPup, but it seems that the ftp links has some problems soI'm not able to download it. Is that link right?
An other question: the ... fix_2.pet is mandatory or is it only for large screen?

Thanks!

[Rait]

@sinc
turbopup beta1 used kernel 2.6.25.16

I had that same question.

Ye i saw ur quostion, but never saw the answer.
Well i might try it and find out... could be a good base for my own puplet i think.
Im running a laptop with only 256mb ram.

[panzerpuppy]

What kernel is beta1 using?
2.6.25.16?

Yes, the good old k2.6.25.16.

[panzerpuppy]

Hi everybody!
I would like to try TurboPup, but it seems that the ftp links has some problems so I'm not able to download it.

The link on Page 14 works.

Another question: the ... fix_2.pet is mandatory or is it only for large screen?

Thanks!

It's a recommended update that's suitable for all screens and resolutions.

[synth]

- Changelog updated (see first page)
- Check Page 16 for more info on the future of Turbopup

[sullysat]

This is a very nice idea and I like what I've seen so far. Cool job synth!

I just need a little guidance. EVERY version of puppy I've ever used has automatically seen the wireless card on this computer as either orinoco_cs or hostap_cs. Turbopup doesn't automatically see anything and doesn't find any networks when I try loading either of these modules.

I'm probably missing something simple, but I'd appreciate any guidance I can get on this.

Thanks in advance,
Sully

[ldolse]

Hi, I've been looking into using Turbopup Xtreme to power a MPD server. I'm running from a SATA attached compact flash. I can confirm the PUPMODE is 13.

What I'm interested in doing is creating a locked down/crashproof Puppy, as per several other threads I've found in the forums. I don't believe locking down itself will be a problem, but I am seeing one problem with Turbopup that I don't see with the regular release. Once it's locked down I want to be able to manually save any important changes I make. With the regular release this is easily done through an icon on the desktop, but I can't find any equivalent of this in Turbopup.

I think it still exists somewhere, and just isn't exposed to the user. I couldn't find it in the program menu, and searching for info on manually saving didn't yield useful results. How do I get the button back, or at least use the script that it calls?

Edit: I just found out that this is a script on the regular Puppy desktop, so it should be easily enough to manually copy over to Turbopup. However, how would I go about sticking it on the desktop? Apologize for being a bit of a newb to Puppy.

[puppyite]

However, how would I go about sticking it on the desktop? Apologize for being a bit of a newb to Puppy.

Maybe this might help: Create Links on Desktop you can delete or edit w/ impunity!

[ldolse]

Thanks for the tip on the Desktop icons.

Unfortunately the /usr/sbin/save2flash script doesn't seem to work in this derivative, not really sure what the issue is, as it's only a few lines of code:

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#!/bin/sh
#2007 Lesser GPL licence v2 (http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/lgpl.html)
#sends a request to /usr/sbin/savepuppyd to save the session.
#v4.01 19may2008 BK: request now to /sbin/pup_eventd (savepuppyd is history).
#v411 /tmp/snapmergepuppyrequest is processed in /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d. (from v403 i think)

yaf-splash -display :0 -font "8x16" -outline 0 -margin 4 -bg yellow -text "NOTICE:
Request to save current session is queued. Please wait,
another message will popup when the saving occurs..." &
RETVAL=$?
YAFPID=$!

touch /tmp/snapmergepuppyrequest

while [ -f /tmp/snapmergepuppyrequest ];do
 sleep 1
done

[ $RETVAL -eq 0 ] && kill $YAFPID

###END###

The first notice in the above script does come up, just as it does in the regular puppy release. However it's never followed by the follow-up script indicating the session was saved. A reboot confirms the changes aren't saved.

Directly running /usr/sbin/snapmergepuppy does appear to do the trick, but I'm not sure if that's considered a proper way to run it, as it dumps dozen of errors to the console when run from there.

[James186282]

I stumbled onto this thread and wanted to say bravo to the author! I think small and fast distros are one of the best reasons for noobs like me to switch from WinDOZE to linux. I've been pretty conventional using the latest official puppy distro but I'm stuck on one problem that I can't resolve. Since you chaps seem to be very tuned into the mechanics of linux can I ask an oof thread question? Someone mentioned they wanted a newer comm driver for a "N" based wifi card. I'm kind of going in the opposite direction. I'm a hardware (rf) type of guy and I'm happily playing around with madwifi but... the latest distro has ath5k in it and I can't seem to get rid of it (With blacklist etc)

My mega-noob question of the day is this. Are the wifi drivers like ath5k part of the kernel? And thus not easily pulled out? Or is it a files that called from some text script during bootup that I can easily alter? My follow up question is if its part of the kernel is there a version of turbopup (or other distros) that don't have ath5k in them at the core?

Keep trying to get that boot up time shorter and using less memory! This is truly great stuff!

[James186282]

Wow. I ran htop for the first time. OUCH! Is there a good how to on how to turn off all this junk that starts up with each boot?!?! Ack Ack Ack Phhht!

[rjbrewer]

I stumbled onto this thread and wanted to say bravo to the author! I think small and fast distros are one of the best reasons for noobs like me to switch from WinDOZE to linux. I've been pretty conventional using the latest official puppy distro but I'm stuck on one problem that I can't resolve. Since you chaps seem to be very tuned into the mechanics of linux can I ask an oof thread question? Someone mentioned they wanted a newer comm driver for a "N" based wifi card. I'm kind of going in the opposite direction. I'm a hardware (rf) type of guy and I'm happily playing around with madwifi but... the latest distro has ath5k in it and I can't seem to get rid of it (With blacklist etc)

My mega-noob question of the day is this. Are the wifi drivers like ath5k part of the kernel? And thus not easily pulled out? Or is it a files that called from some text script during bootup that I can easily alter? My follow up question is if its part of the kernel is there a version of turbopup (or other distros) that don't have ath5k in them at the core?

Keep trying to get that boot up time shorter and using less memory! This is truly great stuff!

Questions about wireless are best covered by "tempestuous".

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 59&t=46339

[Colonel Panic]

I've downloaded it and tried it out and it works fine but it's probably "overkill" for a machine with 256 MB of RAM like mine. Still, it's good to be able to run a distro which has no problem managing with Seamonkey 2.0 and Opera 10, both with Flash, without slowing down or using the swap partitiion. So, a fine effort for which thanks.

[synth]

I've updated the first page with a brand new (Htop) screenshot of Turbopup Xtreme Beta 2 ***

The full Xorg desktop uses 0.00 % CPU and 12MB of memory.


*** = coming soon

[rjbrewer]

How about screenshots of Htop with videos running in gxine or
mplayer.............
and specs of what you're using.

[panzerpuppy]

Wow. I ran htop for the first time. OUCH! Is there a good how to on how to turn off all this junk that starts up with each boot?!?! Ack Ack Ack Phhht!

Just check out the first page and look at the updated (Turbopup Beta 2) HTop screenshot.
What you'll see there is Turbopup Xtreme running HTop - only 8 processes are active - 6 system processes and 2 needed by HTop.

If you close HTop, you'll have only 6 processes running (that's with the full Xorg server and window manager providing a nice GUI for your Linux desktop) :

- init (the initialization script needed to boot Puppy)
- xinit (the script needed to start the X server)
- xwin (the script that starts the window manager)
- X:0 (X server running on the first display)
- jwm (the window manager)
- /sbin/getty* (the virtual terminal / main Linux command line)

Those are all essential services (if you're running Puppy with a GUI).

If you exit to the command line (CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE or boot with pfix=nox), you'll see that Turbopup Xtreme uses only 2 services and 8MB of RAM (LOL)

Unlike PULP , Turbopup Xtreme is not just optimised for low memory usage, but for speed as well. It will use the last drop of CPU power from your old junker or new crapbox

[zenfunk]

Unlike PULP , Turbopup Xtreme is not just optimised for low memory usage, but for speed as well. It will use the last drop of CPU power from your old junker or new crapbox

Being the author of PULP, I naturally am quite interested in how the speed gains of turbopup are achieved. (To be frank, the last time I checked Turbopup 1 out, it was an early beta. Not had a chance to check out one of the latest Turbo pup extreme versions.
BTW, Pulp certainly is optimized for speed as well. The apps it uses are way faster than stock puppy programms. Also, by not having a lot of background processes, it uses less RAM and therefore less CPU cycles, which of course leaves more processing power for your applications.

Thanks in advance for your insights,
Christian

[Colonel Panic]

Having read this discussion I've given PULP another go and I can't see any speed difference between PULP and Turbo Extreme - they're both fast enough on my old(ish) machine. I think PULP goes well with a lightweight window manager such as Blackbox (which I'm using now) or Pekwm.