Gnome 2.20.3 SFS (Only for Puppy4)
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Project One:
To install the gnome sfs file onto the HD
Loaded Dingo as a fresh install
extracted gnome sfs onto the HD
xwin gnome-session
appeared to work well
Project Two:
To get Gnucash to work on this version of Puppy
Already tried version1.9.8. tgz2pet then install - and used gslapt to get all dependencies (wow i read somewhere that it was a dependency hell) - thought id's try an older version as newer version require newer versions of gnome to work - however i think it doesnt matter
unfortunately i dont have the know-how to get the program to work -
gnucash-bin.c is suppose to be the entry program but puppy doesnt know (and neither do i) what program is needed to run this
I think it's a C source code - opened it in text-editor and it says
* gnucash-bin.c -- The program entry point for Gnucash.
any suggestion? or should i try a newer version of Gnucash?
cheers
martin
To install the gnome sfs file onto the HD
Loaded Dingo as a fresh install
extracted gnome sfs onto the HD
xwin gnome-session
appeared to work well
Project Two:
To get Gnucash to work on this version of Puppy
Already tried version1.9.8. tgz2pet then install - and used gslapt to get all dependencies (wow i read somewhere that it was a dependency hell) - thought id's try an older version as newer version require newer versions of gnome to work - however i think it doesnt matter
unfortunately i dont have the know-how to get the program to work -
gnucash-bin.c is suppose to be the entry program but puppy doesnt know (and neither do i) what program is needed to run this
I think it's a C source code - opened it in text-editor and it says
* gnucash-bin.c -- The program entry point for Gnucash.
any suggestion? or should i try a newer version of Gnucash?
cheers
martin
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Sorry Martin I don't know anything about gnu-cash so I can't help you.
I'm just writing to say that I'm completely amazed that you were able to get Gnome running on a full hard drive install of Puppy 4.0 like that!
To install ANY programme manually requires a lot of bravado and patience to place the files in the proper place, etc., and then HOPE everything will work out. But to do it with a complete desktop environment of the size of Gnome? As brave as I am and the few years as I've been doing this---that's something I'd still only think about doing!
Wow...
I'm still in shock thinking someone actually attempted and successfully completed a hard drive install. If Wow was reading this (Wow?) I'd ask him to make a .pet install of this for we who have hard drive installs. hehe!
Curious about one thing though: Did you still have to add hal and haldaemon to the userlist via the terminal as Wow suggested doing when installing the .sfs as a plugin?
I hope you get help soon with the Gnu-Cash my fellow Puppian Friend! Good luck!
Amicalement/In Friendship,
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"


Wow...

Curious about one thing though: Did you still have to add hal and haldaemon to the userlist via the terminal as Wow suggested doing when installing the .sfs as a plugin?
I hope you get help soon with the Gnu-Cash my fellow Puppian Friend! Good luck!
Amicalement/In Friendship,
Eyes-Only
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missing link
wow,
Eyes-Only,
any ?
Please upload the link of gnome 2.20.3 sfs again, because the one posted is missing.
pdrito.
Eyes-Only,
any ?
Please upload the link of gnome 2.20.3 sfs again, because the one posted is missing.
pdrito.
Sorry that I can't help guys---I got the file from Wow and where he'd parked it at that link. As to where Wow is now I haven't a clue and I have nowhere to "park" the file myself.
I'm sorry that I'm unable to help out in this situation my fellow Puppian friends.
All I can say is that hopefully Wow will return from wherever he's went and resupply the gnome.sfs file. It would be a real shame to see such a tremendous and important amount of work lost by the wayside, especially one which is so very valuable for our beloved distro!
Amicalement,
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
I'm sorry that I'm unable to help out in this situation my fellow Puppian friends.

Amicalement,
Eyes-Only
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Hey Wow! Thanks my fellow Puppian Friend! As you can see, many have been asking for this!
That's what you call "a job well-done" mate. 
I still wished I could get a remaster done of this as I think it would make a great side project but I always stumble when it comes to that part of doing the "/root" and "/etc" directories. Ah well... as I say in French, "Rien est parfait!... sauf moi!"
hehe!
Good to see you again Wow. Don't be such a stranger, eh? We miss your compiles!
Amicalement,
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"


I still wished I could get a remaster done of this as I think it would make a great side project but I always stumble when it comes to that part of doing the "/root" and "/etc" directories. Ah well... as I say in French, "Rien est parfait!... sauf moi!"

Good to see you again Wow. Don't be such a stranger, eh? We miss your compiles!
Amicalement,
Eyes-Only
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HUH Pdrito? Hey, I didn't do nothin'! I find that way I can't get blamed for anything should somethin' go wrong, see? LOL!
Of course... Now if something should go right? That's a different story altogether mate! No need for thanks then, okie? I accept donations of any amount at the door over there---------->
LOL!
Hey! Sometimes it's just fun to kick back and have a great laugh, right?
Take care Pdrito and I hope the Gnome.sfs file worked well for you?
Amicalement,
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"

Of course... Now if something should go right? That's a different story altogether mate! No need for thanks then, okie? I accept donations of any amount at the door over there---------->
LOL!

Hey! Sometimes it's just fun to kick back and have a great laugh, right?

Take care Pdrito and I hope the Gnome.sfs file worked well for you?
Amicalement,
Eyes-Only
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Another happy user 
This is fantastic! Eyes-Only you're so right that it is amazing what wow has done, Gnome and Puppy truly do make great partners. Gtk themes look much better, Nautilus managing the desktop is superb (more like ms windows!), better than xfdesktop, font rendering also seems much better, so much sharper.
Thanks wow

This is fantastic! Eyes-Only you're so right that it is amazing what wow has done, Gnome and Puppy truly do make great partners. Gtk themes look much better, Nautilus managing the desktop is superb (more like ms windows!), better than xfdesktop, font rendering also seems much better, so much sharper.
Thanks wow

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WOW!
Another happy nooby user. Even though this is a test version, I may be using it for my default desktop. I really like the Evolution PIM and Email Client.
One Question for now, How do you change the icons on the launchers on the desktop and the panel. ie. Using OOo sfs I can place launchers on both the desktop and panel by dragging and dropping, however, the icons switch to a generic default instead of using the icons that I placed there.
Impressive job, looking forward to other releases.
Jim
Another happy nooby user. Even though this is a test version, I may be using it for my default desktop. I really like the Evolution PIM and Email Client.
One Question for now, How do you change the icons on the launchers on the desktop and the panel. ie. Using OOo sfs I can place launchers on both the desktop and panel by dragging and dropping, however, the icons switch to a generic default instead of using the icons that I placed there.
Impressive job, looking forward to other releases.
Jim
Hi Jim!
The way Gnome usually works is by using "icon theme packs" which are "normally" found in "/usr/share/icons/<theme_name>" So to switch icons on the desktop you'd go to the third selection over from the left on the Gnome panel (ACK! Sorry Jim, I'm not currently in Gnome but Fluxbox), I believe it's called "System", and then to "Preferences" and then "Appearances". Usually the first theme selected (in my case it's been this way?) is the theme you're using (?). Select "Customise" button and you'll find a tab for "Icons". That's how you can change your desktop/panel/menu icons. But beware!---while you'll pick up a lot of other icons you may lose your Puppy related icons in the process.
I change icons so often that it really doesn't matter to me, along with themes, backgrounds, you name it.
Now as to the OOo icons? If you go to the icon directory I mentioned earlier and see if it contains icons for OOo, one way you could change them---though a rather complicated way---would be to rename the theme icons and replace with your icons. Or, you can right-click (if using a ROX-desktop only) and select to switch out the current icons for your own icons and ROX will remember them.
Another way would be to go to "/usr/share/applications" and change the icons there resetting the pathways to point to your icons in the .desktop files which can be edited in Leafpad or Geany. This is what I do for my SeaMonkey Suite and a few others so that regardless the desktop I use I'll ALWAYS have the exact same icons in my menus and desktop/panel, etc.
I hope some of this has helped Jim?
Amicalement,
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
The way Gnome usually works is by using "icon theme packs" which are "normally" found in "/usr/share/icons/<theme_name>" So to switch icons on the desktop you'd go to the third selection over from the left on the Gnome panel (ACK! Sorry Jim, I'm not currently in Gnome but Fluxbox), I believe it's called "System", and then to "Preferences" and then "Appearances". Usually the first theme selected (in my case it's been this way?) is the theme you're using (?). Select "Customise" button and you'll find a tab for "Icons". That's how you can change your desktop/panel/menu icons. But beware!---while you'll pick up a lot of other icons you may lose your Puppy related icons in the process.
I change icons so often that it really doesn't matter to me, along with themes, backgrounds, you name it.

Now as to the OOo icons? If you go to the icon directory I mentioned earlier and see if it contains icons for OOo, one way you could change them---though a rather complicated way---would be to rename the theme icons and replace with your icons. Or, you can right-click (if using a ROX-desktop only) and select to switch out the current icons for your own icons and ROX will remember them.
Another way would be to go to "/usr/share/applications" and change the icons there resetting the pathways to point to your icons in the .desktop files which can be edited in Leafpad or Geany. This is what I do for my SeaMonkey Suite and a few others so that regardless the desktop I use I'll ALWAYS have the exact same icons in my menus and desktop/panel, etc.
I hope some of this has helped Jim?
Amicalement,
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
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Eyes Only,
Thanks for your reply. I've tried your suggestions with no luck. To change the icons, I right clicked on the panel icon, selected properties, then clicked on the icon in the Launcher Properties box. This opened a dialog box that loaded the available icons, none of which were appropriate. The dialog box allows you to browse to other folders, but the folder you suggested is empty. However, using Rox to look at the folder reveals many icons. P-find locates 6120 *.svg files. Don't know why the change dialog box cannot see any of them. For the panel, it looks like I will have to find mini or scalable icons, rename them and place them in a folder that can be seen. I still have no idea as to how to change the desktop icons.
There must be an easier way, however, it appears to be broken in this sfs distribution. I'm still impressed even with the icon problem.
Jim
Thanks, Eyes only, I misstated above, although the dialog box allows you to browse to other folders, it shows no files in those folders (Rox indicates that there are icons present). However, there are about 28 icons that appear in the default location. I have been unable to locate the default folder to add icons to that location.
Jim
Thanks for your reply. I've tried your suggestions with no luck. To change the icons, I right clicked on the panel icon, selected properties, then clicked on the icon in the Launcher Properties box. This opened a dialog box that loaded the available icons, none of which were appropriate. The dialog box allows you to browse to other folders, but the folder you suggested is empty. However, using Rox to look at the folder reveals many icons. P-find locates 6120 *.svg files. Don't know why the change dialog box cannot see any of them. For the panel, it looks like I will have to find mini or scalable icons, rename them and place them in a folder that can be seen. I still have no idea as to how to change the desktop icons.
There must be an easier way, however, it appears to be broken in this sfs distribution. I'm still impressed even with the icon problem.
Jim
Thanks, Eyes only, I misstated above, although the dialog box allows you to browse to other folders, it shows no files in those folders (Rox indicates that there are icons present). However, there are about 28 icons that appear in the default location. I have been unable to locate the default folder to add icons to that location.
Jim
Last edited by Jim1911 on Mon 21 Jul 2008, 02:28, edited 1 time in total.
Hi Jim,
Sorry I didn't reply sooner. I'm not the best, shining example, for giving help here on the forum where I'm working with only half the brain God gave me (seriously). Plus sometimes it can take me forever to return and make replies.
Since nobody else has I take it nobody else has come up across this problem then---and that would be including myself since I haven't.
It's hard for me to say here why Puppy's unable to see those icon files first off. I can't recall whether Puppy CAN by nature see .svg graphic files? I do know that I've altered my Puppy extensibly and one of the things I had to add was the "libsvg.so" file to "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines", along with a lot of other theme engines as well. Now I've never encountered Gnome having any trouble viewing .svg icons and it may be because I've added that file ahead of time... I'm not sure.
So I guess I'm really not of much help here. You may get better help asking in the "Beginner's" or "User's" section for help as there are different people working there with a far more vast knowledge of Linux. Tell them I sent you, please Jim?
Good luck and keep me posted---via private message if need be even.
Bonne Chance et Amicalement! Good Luck and In Friendship!
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
Sorry I didn't reply sooner. I'm not the best, shining example, for giving help here on the forum where I'm working with only half the brain God gave me (seriously). Plus sometimes it can take me forever to return and make replies.
Since nobody else has I take it nobody else has come up across this problem then---and that would be including myself since I haven't.

It's hard for me to say here why Puppy's unable to see those icon files first off. I can't recall whether Puppy CAN by nature see .svg graphic files? I do know that I've altered my Puppy extensibly and one of the things I had to add was the "libsvg.so" file to "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines", along with a lot of other theme engines as well. Now I've never encountered Gnome having any trouble viewing .svg icons and it may be because I've added that file ahead of time... I'm not sure.
So I guess I'm really not of much help here. You may get better help asking in the "Beginner's" or "User's" section for help as there are different people working there with a far more vast knowledge of Linux. Tell them I sent you, please Jim?
Good luck and keep me posted---via private message if need be even.
Bonne Chance et Amicalement! Good Luck and In Friendship!
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
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@Jim1911: I reckon that gnome's dialog in this instance doesn't actually list .svg's by intention. I guess maybe that .svgs aren't the most standard format for icons, I'm not sure, but the dialog does list pngs, xpms and others, yes? It does for me. The folder it says it's looking in is /usr/share/pixmaps Perhaps you can just google-image for an appropriate PNG then download it into that directory and try again?
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