How to repair the boot manager to boot Puppy?

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olaf
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How to repair the boot manager to boot Puppy?

#1 Post by olaf »

hi!

When I install puppy on the ssd hard drive, the entry in the boot manager (menu.lst?) is missing afterwards
The entry that I see for manual insertion at the end of the installation also does not work.
The boot menu was displayed when starting, but no entry worked.

So that I can work at all, I first installed lxle on a second partition.
The first partition with Puppy was recognized, but the PC now starts lxle automatically, no boot menu is displayed at all.
I had so many attempts that I no longer remember exactly what was installed (grub, grub2, ...)

How can I restore the menu and insert a correct entry for Puppy?

Olaf

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#2 Post by bigpup »

lxle probably installed a boot loader that took over booting process.
It's boot loader probably knows nothing about setting up a boot loader for Puppy.

Need this information:
What is the computer?
Make and model?
What exact Puppy version you trying to install?

Have you got the Puppy version installed on a bootable USB or CD/DVD you can boot it with. So we can do things from a running Puppy?

I assume you want to install Puppy to the internal hard drive?
Any other operating system going to stay installed or only want Puppy?
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

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#3 Post by olaf »

bigpup wrote: What is the computer?
Make and model?
Dell Wyse R90
(a thin client with 1,5 GHz, now with 2GB RAM + 128 GB SSD)
bigpup wrote: What exact Puppy version you trying to install?
BionicPup32 (18.04, 32bit)
bigpup wrote: Have you got the Puppy version installed on a bootable USB or CD/DVD you can boot it with. So we can do things from a running Puppy?
Yes, I have boot + install it before with USB-Stick.
bigpup wrote: I assume you want to install Puppy to the internal hard drive?
Yes, I did that.
bigpup wrote: Any other operating system going to stay installed or only want Puppy?
Nothing was previously installed on it.
Now:
1st partition: puppy
2nd partition: lxle (Lubuntu / Ubuntu)

Actually, only puppy should be on it.
Since I currently need this PC to work (at home, Corona-Crisis), I had to quickly install something else (lxle).

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#4 Post by bigpup »

What type of bios this computer has can affect what boot loader to use and the settings for it.

Do you know what type bios?
Old style or UEFI?

I will assume it has old style bios.


Note:
I know you may have been offered to do a full install of Bionicpup32, but Puppy runs best as a frugal install.
Some features only work as a frugal install.
Frugal is just the name, but it is still the complete Bionicpup32 OS. It is just installed in a special way.
Frugal is how little it takes over the drive.
Frugal installs can be installed inside another OS.


It seems your problem is to get a boot loader that will boot all the operating systems you have installed or Bionicpup32 8.0.

Right now you have the boot loader that LXLE installed and it most likely has no menu entry to boot Bionicpup32 8.0

I am not sure what boot loader you actually tried to install for Bionicpup32 to boot or if you actually did install one.
The Puppy Universal Installer is actually letting you decide to run a boot loader install program.

Puppy has a boot loader that works well with the old style bios and sometimes will pickup and install needed menu entries to boot other OS's than Puppy.
But not 100% for every possible other OS.

Keep all the installs as they are now.

So boot with the USB install of Bionicpup32.
Run menu->Setup->Grub4dos Bootloader Config.
Select the internal drive as the device to install on.
Select search only within this device.
All other default settings will work, so do no more selecting.
OK.
OK.
OK.
finished.

Shutdown from running from the Bionicpup32 on USB.

Boot the computer and select the internal drive as the device to boot from.
Should see a boot menu to boot Bionicpup.
Use the first entry to do a normal boot.

If it now boots OK.
Look in the boot menu for an LXLE entry and try it.

May want to keep both installed.
Or you can just delete LXLE.

If this did not help.
May need to start over fresh.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

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