Bionicpup64 8.0 CE

[Mike Walsh]

I believe the issue is that I've accidentally toggled something that is more noticeable with browsers than owt else, due to the various functions they all have integrated via the Fn keys.

checked the keyboard model setup in Mouse/keyboard Wizard->Advanced Configuration->Keyboard Model?
There are some specific ones for specific laptop keyboards.

Mm-hm.

The closest I can get for this model (where everything works) is the 'Generic 105-key (INTL) PC' one. This is the same one I was using for the older, wired Logitech K120.....and the wireless K120 is a clone of that model, with the addition of an extra row of 'multimedia' keys at the top. Talking of which.....

Hm. I wonder..? There's a couple of extra keys in that row which I've never been certain of what, if anything, they control.....and where they do function, the corresponding 'action' seems to vary from one Pup to another! Mm; dum-de-dum (*thinking*)

This bears investigation. Bear with me. Back soon.


Mike.

[Mike Walsh]

Well, now.

Curiouser & curiouser, indeed.... Whatever it was that was causing the problem seems to have dissipated between the last session and this one. This is my first visit to Bionic64 for a few days.....and the former 'arrow key' issue no longer seems to exist.

(Once again, I've tried it in all installed browsers; this is, after all, where the problem formerly reared its head. No sign of it.... *phew*)

Ah, well. I'll just have to mark it down as one of those inexplicable 'glitches' we all encounter from time to time. I'm not complaining, mind....

(*shrug*)

So it's neither a Woof-CE 'issue' or a Bionicpup64 'issue'. Just one of those crazy, 'temporary' things that simply occurs from time to time. It's not the first time such a thing has happened to me.....and I doubt it'll be the last. (Must have 'set up shop' in /tmp for the duration....and probably cleared by the re-boot, whatever it was.)

Ho-hum. Never mind; y'all can rest easy. Onwards & upwards..!


Mike.

[quenyan]

sorry to interupt, where I can find the menu.1st file? i couldn't find it in boot/grub dirrectory.

[Mike Walsh]

@ quenyan:-

That's because /boot/grub doesn't actually exist in Puppies. Should be under /mnt/home, somewhere (I think).....though it depends on how many OS you're running. And no need to apologise; you're not 'interrupting'.

If you're multi-booting with more than one OS, it should be at the root of the first partition on your hard drive. (In my case, that's a large 'DATA' partition.....which used to belong to XP, years ago. I simply re-purposed the partition, rather than re-partition & re-format the whole drive.)

Always booted.....good as gold.


Mike.

[sheldonisaac]

..where I can find the menu.1st file? i couldn't find it in boot/grub dirrectory.

I'm now in BusterPup 8.0, there is mnt/home/menu.lst
It is spelled with a lower case "l", not a numeral "1".

I think that Bionicpup64 8.0 CE is similar.

[quenyan]

I only has bionic pup 64 frugal installed on my machine...

[Mike Walsh]

I only has bionic pup 64 frugal installed on my machine...

In that case, it'll be under /mnt/home..... As Sheldon says, '.lst' is spelt with a small, lower-case 'L'....not a numeral '1'.


Mike.

[bigpup]

You may not be using menu.lst.
Depends on how Bionicpup is installed and what boot loader is being used.
It could be using:
menu.lst
grub.cfg
isolinux.cfg
syslinux.cfg
etc.....

Probably going to be using menu.lst or grub.cfg as the boot loader menu config file.

[linuxcbon]

Bionicpup64 8.0 CE

when I install then run steam on a fresh bionicpup64, I get :

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/root/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri3.so.0: undefined symbol: xcb_send_request_with_fds
/root/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh: line 444: no match: ssfn*

This is a known issue, but valve say they fixed it :
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam- ... ssues/4816

So what steam version is used in quickpet ? Is it an old version ? That could be why we get this error ?

[paulh177]

Tahr & Xenial seem to have the PrtSc key on a standard kbd mapped to trigger a printscreen & load that into mtpaint.

I've just swung over to Bionic64, & find that very neat & useful feature no longer enabled.

What do I need to do to re-enable it?

thanks

[RickGT351]

Is there a devx for this distro? There's none listed in the SFS repo

[paulh177]

Is there a devx for this distro? There's none listed in the SFS repo

it here

http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... 64_8.0.sfs

[Mike Walsh]

Is there a devx for this distro? There's none listed in the SFS repo

@ Rick:-

Direct link:- http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pu ... 64_8.0.sfs

Always a good idea to look in each Puppy's individual Ibiblio repo when you want this kind of thing. This is where Quickpet and the SFS lists draw their info from anyway, though I believe the devx is usually accessed via the 'Useful Pets' tab in Quickpet.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/

Hope that helps.


Mike.

[paulh177]

Tahr & Xenial seem to have the PrtSc key on a standard kbd mapped to trigger a printscreen & load that into mtpaint.

I've just swung over to Bionic64, & find that very neat & useful feature no longer enabled.

What do I need to do to re-enable it?

thanks

Well, to answer my own question (in case it crops up for someone else):

/root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal needed a line like this:

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<Key keycode="107">exec:defaultscreenshot</Key>

The keycode may be different on different systems.
you can establish the correct keycode using the terminal progam `xev`

[bigpup]

Bionicpup64 8.0 CE

when I install then run steam on a fresh bionicpup64, I get :

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/root/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri3.so.0: undefined symbol: xcb_send_request_with_fds
/root/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh: line 444: no match: ssfn*

This is a known issue, but valve say they fixed it :
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam- ... ssues/4816

So what steam version is used in quickpet ? Is it an old version ? That could be why we get this error ?

Uninstall Steam from Puppy Package Manager(PPM) uninstall.

Start over.

First run Quickpet->Info->Bionicpup updates
That will make this update:

07/12/2019 updated steam ... linuxcbon

Try Quickpet->Fun->Steam to install.

It should install other software, by showing in a terminal, what it is installing.
Make sure there is free space in the save file/folder to install all of this.

Is Steam now working?

I just did it and it runs for me.

[paulh177]

Is there any progress on Bionic64 + Broadcom 43x wireless?

(I gave up and never saw charlie's answer btw)

I've installed the Broadcom driver via quickpet, but while I can now see the device in network-wizard, it won't connect (network-wizard also says the wl driver its using doesn't support WPA which might be the problem)

I've been using Bionic on another laptop & I'm very happy otherwise, but I need it running on this old Dell too.

for info, these are the Pup files I'm running off. This is a frugal install with the files in a subdir of /mnt/home/bionic64, and the fs is ext3

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-rw-r--r--  1 root root   6189216 Feb 19  2019 vmlinuz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   2619177 Feb 26  2019 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 292466688 Feb 26  2019 puppy_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 168349696 Mar 14  2019 devx_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 143220736 Mar 14  2019 kernel_sources-4.19.23-bionicpup64.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  76730368 May 16  2019 zdrv_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs

md5s:

bfd98430dd50c16dd71c463d7d347223  vmlinuz
3717e2e97d1dacfcc0fa28c7f9b44980  initrd.gz
028a1af0d006db3ac215bbaf93be8e1b  puppy_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
6c96db8c2cbad8e3a1dee54c9dc48014  devx_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
cfd7260ebc3b95836ce6aee15ee90d77  kernel_sources-4.19.23-bionicpup64.sfs
dc93bb0838588bd7cd4550932c3b8d2d  zdrv_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs

This is my original query ifrom May 2019:

I haven't read all 61 pages of the thread, so maybe this has already cropped up, but I've got big problems with this release on my usual machine.

First off, the boot is extraordinarily slow - it takes about 6-8 minutes to get from grub to a fully loaded desktop; It "pauses" at loading kernel modules and then again trying to run X for minutes each.

The fan runs at full speed at all times, and not surprisingly as udevd seems to grab the processor(s) and hang on like grim death - see attached screenshot.

Note that this machine can run Tahr and Xenial in both 32 & 64 bit variants with no problems, and Bionic in 32 bit is fine too.

Hardware:

Dell Inspiron 1545
4GB
Intel Core2 Duo CPU T6400 @ 2.00GHz
Display: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2
Wireless: Broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01) ( Kernel Driver: b43-pci-bridge)
.

So, basically this is unusable for me at the moment, and I really need a late Ubu Puppy in 64bit for some stuff I'm doing at the moment

[rockedge]

driver its using doesn't support WPA which might be the problem

this is a major factor. I had to for a while revert to WEP on my router to be able to connect with some older Dell laptops...they did no WPA..and as those machines died off I could go back to WPA on the router side

[paulh177]

driver its using doesn't support WPA which might be the problem

this is a major factor. I had to for a while revert to WEP on my router to be able to connect with some older Dell laptops...they did no WPA..and as those machines died off I could go back to WPA on the router side

Every other puppy i've run on this dell has been able to run WPA.
The issue here is not the age or make of the laptop but the that the kernel wireless driver in bionic64 isn't suitable for the wireless chipset in the machine.
As noted before, it works perfectly in bionic32.
There's no reason it shouldn't work in bionic64 too

[linuxcbon]

Is Steam now working?
I just did it and it runs for me.

Now I see why it didnt work for me : it's because I ran it from the terminal, but phil included LIBGL_DRI3_DISABLE somewhere, so it works from the menu , and not from the terminal. Anyway, that should solve the problem for now.

Other stuff :
Does samba still need python2 ? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/vi ... samba.html It says only python3 is needed. So python2 can be given up. Actually, python2 has come to end of life. Which other programs need python2 ?

2 xdg stuff missing :
When I start steam for first time, it needs xdg-user-dir
When I install steamVR , steam needs xdg-icon-resource

[paulh177]

@666philb

Any chance you could have a look at this and give me a steer?
I really like Bionic64 and want to use it, but this kills the option stone dead for me

Is there any progress on Bionic64 + Broadcom 43x wireless?

I've installed the Broadcom driver via quickpet, but while I can now see the device in network-wizard, it won't connect (network-wizard also says the wl driver its using doesn't support WPA which might be the problem)

I've been using Bionic on another laptop & I'm very happy otherwise, but I need it running on this old Dell too.

for info, these are the Pup files I'm running off. This is a frugal install with the files in a subdir of /mnt/home/bionic64, and the fs is ext3

Code: Select all

-rw-r--r--  1 root root   6189216 Feb 19  2019 vmlinuz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   2619177 Feb 26  2019 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 292466688 Feb 26  2019 puppy_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 168349696 Mar 14  2019 devx_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 143220736 Mar 14  2019 kernel_sources-4.19.23-bionicpup64.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  76730368 May 16  2019 zdrv_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs

md5s:

bfd98430dd50c16dd71c463d7d347223  vmlinuz
3717e2e97d1dacfcc0fa28c7f9b44980  initrd.gz
028a1af0d006db3ac215bbaf93be8e1b  puppy_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
6c96db8c2cbad8e3a1dee54c9dc48014  devx_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
cfd7260ebc3b95836ce6aee15ee90d77  kernel_sources-4.19.23-bionicpup64.sfs
dc93bb0838588bd7cd4550932c3b8d2d  zdrv_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs

This is my original query from May 2019:

I haven't read all 61 pages of the thread, so maybe this has already cropped up, but I've got big problems with this release on my usual machine.

First off, the boot is extraordinarily slow - it takes about 6-8 minutes to get from grub to a fully loaded desktop; It "pauses" at loading kernel modules and then again trying to run X for minutes each.

The fan runs at full speed at all times, and not surprisingly as udevd seems to grab the processor(s) and hang on like grim death - see attached screenshot.

Note that this machine can run Tahr and Xenial in both 32 & 64 bit variants with no problems, and Bionic in 32 bit is fine too.

Hardware:

Dell Inspiron 1545
4GB
Intel Core2 Duo CPU T6400 @ 2.00GHz
Display: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2
Wireless: Broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01) ( Kernel Driver: b43-pci-bridge)
.

So, basically this is unusable for me at the moment, and I really need a late Ubu Puppy in 64bit for some stuff I'm doing at the moment